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Of course, marshallh would be the one to design one of these. He is the creator of the 64Drive and a whole bunch of other cool gadgets (including portabilized consoles). He can practically do anything.

Thanks for the help, Strati. You seem to be quicker and more skilled at figuring things out for yourself than I I've actually been looking at the source for DeathBasket's "Boss Rush" hack in order to get an understanding of warps and how to modify the exits they take. He had modified the warps spawned by bosses in order to take the player straight to the next boss and was nice enough to include the source of the modified actor with comments. And you can extend an actor's code, so you don't have to worry too much about space. We'll be recompiling the actor so the only thing that you and I need to worry about are the relocations getting messed up and exceeding the virtual size defined by the actor table (we can fix this easily though).

I'm sad to see this go. I've always associated you and everything you've accomplished having to do with Underground Castle so it feels kind of weird knowing that you won't be working on it anymore. It's awesome to know that you'll be releasing what documentation you have-- you always seem to have an answer for many complicated questions and I can't wait to see what else you've uncovered.

When I talk about "drawing", I am referring to the game rendering a model in its hierarchy stance. Thanks for the offer though. I will definitely be speaking to Sakura soon concerning help. She is indeed one of the more learned ones

I'll begin outside modifications while you guys work on designing the temple. The are some assembly hacks that'll require a lot of research, but I think I am capable of pulling most of them off. Here's my list of outside modifications that I need to do: [*]Add a warp to Temple of Time [*]Fix exit table to link things up [*]Try to see if I can have a level not be accessible through map select [*]Add a Triforce to the quest status screen [*]Make a broken Triforce item (infinite loop anyone?) [*]Look into making an hourglass-light contraption as Spire had described [*]Modify warp actor to take you to a specified level [*]Look into drawing animationless models Heh, this is starting to sound a lot like another old project of mine.

Hmm... I wonder what would happen if you nulled out the 0x05 command and then shifted over all the header commands that come after it by 8 bytes? Or what if you copied values from another 0x05 command?

Actually, Secant, everything could still be in one scene. There would have to be mutiple entrances defined in the scenes entrance index. We would also have to overwrite more than one entry in the exit table.

Perhaps three rooms per floor (except for the Chamber of Sages)? The rooms would symbolize Courage, Wisdom, and Power. It would end up being... a lot of rooms. Just throwing them out there though. I'm liking the idea of travelling between floors through warps.

That looks pretty impressive, Kargaroc. You should get into contact with Spire and Secant (Naxy) concerning how you might implement it into the dungeon. Sairugoth, we could use all the help we can get. Ideally, the whole forum would be involved by thinking up puzzle designs, theorizing on how the temple might have been, making the discovery more believable, and helping to sell this thing off as the truth once we have it all done. The only help that I am picky on is designing the actual temple model. Spire and Secant have already proved their worth by showcasing various products of their talent on different threads in this forum. I have complete trust in their design as well as their ability in 3D modelling. The only way that I would allow more modellers to join is if they demonstrated prowess that is on par with OoT objects in maps and that their style and designs did not clash with other modellers working on the temple. One thing I should say is that this project is pretty much leader-less. I am more of a coordinator who checks in and sees how things are coming along. Once the temple model is done is where I come into the picture: I import the map into the game, follow specific puzzle designs made by the modellers in order to make actor placements, modify the Temple of Time to have an exit which leads to the map, modify entries in the exit table to link the maps up together, make assembly hacks to allow for specific new things, etc. That being said, I would wish for all modellers to get into contact with one another in order to avoid confusion. I would like for content and progress to be displayed in this thread for the whole forum to see so that they may offer some input as well. I would also like for people who wish to contribute to contact me through this thread too.

Well it seems that everybody is leaning over to Spire's and Naxy's concept more-or-less. I'm all for it so I guess there isn't anything else keeping you all from working on it. I have an idea for puzzles: perhaps we could implement designs that utilize the differences in child and adult? Strati made a hack that allowed for the Mastersword to transform Link from young to old and vice versa without being transported back to the Temple of Time. Also, I would imagine that the Chamber of Sages music would work well with the surreal atmosphere that one might feel when exploring the "lost" temple.

My channel is mostly unknown to people. However, upon viewing what all videos I've uploaded, one quickly comes to the conclusion that I've dabbled in OoT modding. This can be both a good and bad thing. It has a positive effect because it shows that the uploader is probably capable of making a discovery such as this; it has a negative effect because it also shows that the uploader might be capable of making an elaborate hack disguised as a beta discovery. In the end-- and I'm not saying it has to be me-- the uploader must meet both requirements. Either way, if people find out it's a hoax... it's still a pretty damn cool hack. Now concerning giving credit where it's due, I've had a couple of ideas that we could incorporate it into the hack: We could make a square and randomly place it far away from any accessable area in the level and have a(n) texture(s) that has the names of the people who worked on this project. The only way to see this polygon is to go through a seemingly inaccessible "room-changing black plane" that'll load up the singular map file it belongs to. Of course, contributors would have to keep a record of the XYZ coordinates of this transition actor. Another idea would be to randomly place a sign actor that contains text which lists the names of the contributors. Loading it up would work the same as the previous idea concerning textures. The final idea would be to simply say that you helped point the uploader in the right direction in making this discovery. For example, "XDaniel gave me the idea that the room header might be broken", "Spire suggested that I see if some of the files were compressed", "Secant/Naxylldritt hypothesized that if I enabled the event flag that I could load up the scene", etc Concerning Spire's and Naxy's temple concept, I have to say it sounds quite magnificent. I especially like how you plan to incorporate the Chamber of Sages into the design, too. If anything, something you might have to let go of is the hourglass puzzle; speaking from personal experience from programming actors, it seems like it would be beyond my capabilities to implement. I would recommend you stick to actors that are already in the game. You can probably accomplish a similar puzzle design using mirror and sun actors from the spirit temple. Besides, the less custom stuff the less we have to explain how it got there. For now, the overall idea seems like the temple concept that I will go with. Don't start just yet, as I am interested in what others might have in mind. To address ideas concerning broken puzzles and out-of-place actors, that sounds great. It'll help to pull of the whole "work-in-progress" feel of the temple. Finally, I was planning on having this be done on the Debug ROM. It is known for having a few extra beta levels and for the majority of modders to consider it a "decompressed ROM". This'll help to explain why a compressed file had been overlooked in the ROM and will also allow for the discovery of a beta or Ura zelda level to be somewhat plausible. If we wanted people to believe it was a part of Ura zelda then we wouldn't have to try to think up of what technical limitations OoT may have had before the final product. But then again... the whole beta Zelda 64 vibe would be pretty cool to capture.

I would probably be a sarcastic ass if that happens. I try not to lie, but if somebody calls me out on it then I just admit that I was lying in the most confusing matter possible so that people don't know whether or not to believe it.There will be no comment moderation on the video (makes the whole thing seem more believable) so I'll have to be prepared for that

With the mockup description I gave, I am completely relying on a gamble that someone with knowledge in MIPS assembly, yaz0 compression, and the various file formats Z64 who isn't already a part of the whole scheme doesn't come by the video and blow the whole thing up in our face. The chances of somebody with that specific skillset (and who isn't already a part of this site) appearing as if from nowhere are very slim. Also, N64 ASM hackers are a dying breed. Without that skillset, exploiting the hoax would be quite difficult. That way, if anybody came by and asked where exactly in the ROM these "unused" things were, I could just give them some bogus (but tactical and intuitive) offsets for them to check out. Chances are that they wouldn't even have the ability to confirm if the discovery was a hoax or not. Everything I have given within the description has no loopholes and is actually how the OoT engine works. The only thing fake about it is that specific event flag and the compressed map and scene files do not exist. That being said, it would still be a good idea to come togther and forge an explanation that is fool-proof. I have one last thing to say: I don't want this project to turn into anything huge and beyond our capabilities. What I'll be asking for is... [*]A custom dungeon map [*]A dungeon plan to go with it [*]Possibly some new music (I don't know how I'll work this into the story) After that, I'll do the rest of the work such as actor placements, assembly hacks, linking everything up together. Spire, Naxy, and anybody else who is willing, you guys are free to collaborate and come up with a dungeon structure. Of course, don't work on anything until I have definitive idea on what all needs to be done and I have some concepts lined up. You may come up with concepts on your own to throw at me though.

I could release a patch for the modification and make up some fake complex description of what it does... "While searching for remnants of beta magic spells in the ROM some time ago, I found the start of a scene file that is not referenced through any of the scene or file tables. Thinking that it was a grotto of some sort, I looked for references to the file via assembly lui/addiu or lui/ori pairs. I found only one result that made a reference to those offsets. Upon looking at the routine that contained these instructions, I discovered it to be an seemingly unused scene loading routine. The reason why I say it was unused is because the only time that the routine is ever called is when an specific event flag is set. Documentation from various Z64 modding sites inidicates that this event flag is believed to be unused. Thinking that I was smart, I simply made a small modification in order to have the event flag always be set. Not knowing what was going to happen, I played through a little bit of Ocarina of Time before I cam across a blue portal that had appeared in the Temple of Time as if from nowhere. I was 99% sure that this was the result of setting the unknown event flag. Upon entering the warp, the game... crashed. Discouraged, I decided to try to load up the hidden scene by replacing a scene in-game. The game crashed again. I came to the conclusion that perhaps the scene or map files were made up of an archaic format. Wrong. The map files were compressed. I simply uncompressed the map files, entered the blue warp, and... What? The place I entered was far from a grotto. Watch the video and see for yourselves. You can download a patch that enables the event flag and decompresses the map files by clicking this link: ...." That was only an example. Of course, if somebody else can think up a more convincing story than that would be appreciated. Oh, and does anybody else have an ideas on what would be a really good hoax? I'm all for the Sky Temple idea but, like I said, there's no telling how long that'll take

EDIT: Oops, I seem to have made an extra post. Please delete this.

Similar to what RustySporks did with his god-awful attempt at claiming that the Running Man could be beat (and how to access the "Sky Temple"), I have had this wonderful idea in my head to create a small modification and show it off to the world as some secret that has always existed in OoT (or MM if you wanna go that route). Here are my ideas: [*]"I obtained the Triforce!" [*]"I found the REAL Sky Temple!" [*]"I found the Light Temple!" Out of those, the ones concerning the Light Temple and the Triforce would be the easiest to make-- I already have a map that resembles the Light Temple and the other would just take a small ASM hack that makes the user extremely overpowered. I would prefer doing one on finding the "real" Sky Temple just to shove something up RustySpork's a** but there's no telling how long that'll take... I take my sweet time making maps. The reason why I am giving this idea out to the community is... to help pass it off as the truth. I would post a youtube video and people from the site would just go to post "omg that is so awesome, I found teh light temple too". It would be fun to watch what happens, yes? EDIT: Also, guess what? The video won't have comment moderation on it!

So... I'm guessing that people aren't having any problems with this version?

Alrighty, time for a new release. July 19, 2013 : Version 1.3 Release Updates: Added in the ability to add actors and objects to alternate headers Even more space is able to be freed from the ROM. Yay for free space! This is probably the final version of the console application form of this program Source code released Here are the current command-line arguments: ZAO-ADD.exe [ARGUMENTS] -r [ROM FILE] : Specify a ROM to modify and doesn't return anything if it is the only argument -s [sCENE NUMBER] : Specify a scene number and returns the number of maps as an integer -m [MAP NUMBER] : Specify a map number and returns the number of alternate headers as an integer -h [HEADER INDEX] : Specify an alternate header to use and doesn't return anything -a : Returns the amount of actors in the specified map as an integer -o : Returns the amount of objects in the specified map as an integer -A [ACTOR ADD] : Specify the amount of actors to add -O [OBJECT ADD] : Specify the amount of objects to add -i [OFFSET] : Manually specify an offset to inject at -f : Try to fix file table offsets if possible Future Updates: Java GUI Add code to be able to add 0x01 and 0x0B commands if they don't exist Random bug fixes Random optimzations And here we are... ZAO-ADD v1.3 Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/xew8rgxrcjcdbzp/ZAO-ADD_(v1.3).zip ZAO-ADD v1.3 Source: http://www.mediafire.com/download/bd43ybd41dnk11d/ZAO-ADD_(v1.3)_Source.zip

I thought that game was only Japanese? I haven't seen any English patches for it yet.

I am Episcopalian and am not ashamed of my Christian faith. I am, however, ashamed of some denominations... Unfortunately, these groups (i.e. a good deal of Catholics - not implying all) hold the most power in the religious world and have the greatest influence on the peoples' opinions.

Unfortunately, the warps are only spawned by the boss actors and their variables reveal nothing about where they lead to; everything is hardcoded into the warp actor. An assembly hack similar to Strati's Mastersword variable hack may be possible, but I don't know about how clear triggers spawning would work.

Personally, I loved it. I liked the whole retro feel to it.Reminds me of this:

There are quite a few tools made by spinout that work on Linux. I imagine that a lot of Flotonic's programs work on Wine, too Also, I could give out the source code to my program for you to compile (when I finally finish it). I'm pretty sure that I don't have any OS-specific code and the GUI is written in Java so there's no problems there.

I think that they need to include someone from the Chrono series.

Nice job, did my proximity documentation come in handy for this hack? I have a funny idea: you should try making them charge at Link instead of jumping. Then, you should make a herd of wild tektites roam Hyrule Field that stampede things that wander into their path.