HellspawnOfHalo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Are you honestly suggesting that civil rights activists are a bad thing, because they disappointed their previous generation? Are you seriously that thick dude? No, I wasn't, I was referring to how the generation before civil rights activists became more known and how THEY responded. I'm all for equal rights, no one should be given anything less than HUMAN rights. I skimmed the rest of it, so I'll give you my opinion on that. I said nothing about people who run café's, I was referring to people that leave their kids at home so they can go party. Do what makes you happy, just don't hurt people or impose your shit on anyone else. Saying "this is just my opinion" is NOT a cop-out, it's me stating that this is my opinion. It's not fact, it's how I see things. Take it how it is and stop reading into shit like it's some fucking conspiracy, I'm speaking broadly and directly, I'm not inferring anything subliminal about peoples' rights, I'm not saying people shouldn't like what they like I'm saying my opinion on what I consider shitty music and the general mass of people who mindlessly listen to it. If you look at it more than surface level, great, more power to you, but if you're going to be so blatantly empty-headed that you'll follow any trend that comes up like a mindless automaton, I won't even bother. Why? I CAN'T STAND IDIOTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellspawnOfHalo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Look, I'm as big of a Freddy Mercury fan as anyone, but you do realize that is a completely inaccurate statement by stating those people, right? Because you know, they were fads once too? They were called the Devil's music back when these people were in business. People thought it was mindless and a horrible excuse for music. So basically, people felt the same as you, and look where that got them? Right here. You, by your logic, are not part of the solution. You're part of the problem. Of course, there isn't a problem unless someone makes one. Just some food for thought. The people who said that it was mindless didn't bother to ACTUALLY listen to it, it was probably some Fred Phelps fuck who said "God hates Queen" or some shit and every stereotypical Christian Republican mother ever (my grandma) hopped on the bandwagon of "IT'S THE DEVIL'S MUSIC!" And how the FUCK am I part of the problem for liking Queen? Yeah, it was a fad, but for a good fucking reason. First of all, Freddy Mercury was an INCREDIBLE singer, the likes of whom are few and far in between. Second, Queen's music was written by one person and had some of the best lyrics of ANY bands to this day. Meanwhile, cookie-cutter garbage, like today, is written by 24 corporate douche-bags in an office trying to sell records, not even bothering to write something that means anything. Third, if I was part of the problem, I'd be listing shit like Donnie and Marie, not Queen, not Steve Vai. Yeah, they trended in the rock and early metal scenes, but not EVERYTHING THAT TRENDS IS MINDLESS. Queen's music is relevant TO THIS DAY, see Justin Beiber in 10 years, he's going to be as relevant as NSync or the Backstreet boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellspawnOfHalo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Point taken sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellspawnOfHalo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Apparently you've been discussing another things. My point was rather how some people accept things so easily and that sort of sabotages the democracy system. Not only in my country, there were many times when the media influence helped, actively or passively, to elect some messed up politicians, despite their corrupt past. Back on topic, I could still argue some music will help steer people towards consumism and "life is short" and how these people would affect the world around me but, seriously, it won't change fuck, so I'll do the usual: deal with it. I wasn't quite going for that argument, but ok... And I do deal with it, I just decided to open a discussion, but at this point, I kind of regret it because I've come to find people resenting me for having an opinion that differs from theirs. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellspawnOfHalo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 I kinda get what you mean: yeah, a lot of folks are quick to follow, easy to be fooled, so naive. And a lot of people like the new stuff, and hate on the "intellectuals". But that's just people's "opinion". It's what makes humanity so great. It's free, and its yours. You can't force someone to like certain things; that's just how people are. But I get what you're getting at, HellSpawn. Peace. As I said in a couple other posts, my opinions aren't about shoving things down peoples' throats, it's just my opinion on the subject of music, but thank you for not having a hostile response like seemingly everyone else in this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 come to find people resenting me for having an opinion that differs from theirs. :\ Nobody ever said they resent you, including me; I think you're a cool guy. Also, if you don't want others replying in such a hostile manner, maybe you shouldn't yourself? Don't even act innocent, you're pretty damn hostile yourself in this thread. Anyways, nobody here resents you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinettiMods Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I think it should be noted that on a few occasions you (seemed to) contradict yourself. Not to mention, having opinions on facts is just...too contradictory in itself. My word for the wise here is: Opinions are a dangerous thing. It's all right to have one, but there's no telling where it will get you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secant Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Are you serious, Hellspawn? Did you actually just try to start a debate thread, then blatantly toss aside a very well thought-out reply to your comments and then have the nerve to essentially call that person an idiot without even reading what they had to say or defending yourself from their posts? I fail to see how an action like that is anything different from the asinine individuals you've been spending your time condemning with decidedly elitist remarks. If you're going to use this thread as a dumpster for your ill-placed frustrations to make bigoted remarks rather than open-mindedly debate a concern you have, you can expect it to end up locked very promptly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellspawnOfHalo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Are you serious, Hellspawn? Did you actually just try to start a debate thread, then blatantly toss aside a very well thought-out reply to your comments and then have the nerve to essentially call that person an idiot without even reading what they had to say or defending yourself from their posts? I fail to see how an action like that is anything different from the asinine individuals you've been spending your time condemning with decidedly elitist remarks. If you're going to use this thread as a dumpster for your ill-placed frustrations to make bigoted remarks rather than open-mindedly debate a concern you have, you can expect it to end up locked very promptly. Yes, I threw away his well thought-out reply because he obviously didn't bother to pay me the courteousy of properly reading my responses. As I said to Blinx, I don't always think of things I want to say until I'm asked about them. I've been questioned on the same thing at least 5 times in this thread, of which, he is one. I'm tired of responding to this post already. I just wanted to rant, create some friendly discussion, but no, everyone straight up attacked me, except maybe 3 people. By the way, I decided, after you said that, to read more critically what he had to say. The reality is, the most progress will be made by individuals that are passionate about the field they're contributing to. You even mention some of them, these are the intellectuals who end up expanding our collective knowledge. Does that need to be every single person though? Absolutely not, life is entirely too short to force people into things that they don't enjoy. If someone wants to spend their life running a café because they love to chat with customers, why look down on them? It's great to respect the people who do make massive contributions, but disrespecting the people who don't is flat out wrong. Progress will continue to be made, and by the right people for the job. Just take a look at the massive change in technology over the last 20 years. The more progress that gets made, the easier it is to make future progress. Or go back even further and look at how things have changed over the last few hundred years. Only three hundred years ago, the average person couldn't even read. Just let that soak in, something as basic as reading was beyond the average person's grasp, and you're going to say that we're less intellectual as a whole now, or that things are getting worse? It was just recently that the internet became wide spread, now the average person has access to more information than they could ever consume during a life time. Even something we take for granted today like negative numbers, wasn't truly sorted out until the 18th century. Now we expect any student to understand them intuitively, and we have a base of education that every person is required to go through. Our standards are getting much higher over time, not lower. On top of all that, lets take a look at how laws have changed over time. I mentioned that Canada legalized same-sex marriage about seven years ago now, there's a trend of society becoming more accepting of people. Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967) banned any laws prohibiting interracial marriage in the United States. That was only forty years ago! Before forty years ago, you couldn't marry someone with a different ethnicity. Again, things getting better rather than getting worse. I could provide so many examples of laws becoming more sane, we're moving in a positive direction and only more rapidly as time goes on. Society is becoming more accepting, not less. I should clarify, I was more referring to societal decline, not scientific decline. Also, my rage is more directed at the past 5-10 years. The 100 year remark was more along the lines that each generation seems to think the succeeding generation is falling to shit, not that I believe so myself, at least not the past whole 100 years, we've made great strides, be it Civil Rights movements (which as previously stated, I consider HUMAN rights), technological advances, or scientific advances, we HAVE advanced, tremeandously at that. With that in mind, here's some examples of societal downfall. http://nyulocal.com/national/2013/01/31/the-nra-falsely-blames-video-games-for-shootings-and-then-makes-one/ http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/dont-jail-mum-over-babys-death-lawyer-urges-supreme-court/story-e6frfkp9-1226566736192 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm not huge on gun control, but Alex is fucking crazy! Saying this is "just your opinion" is a cop-out. You are making an assertion, it's either true or it's not; you should be able to back it up. "I don't like <type of music>" is an opinion. Instead, you're trying to present a weak argument based on things that have no correlation about the degredation of humanity. Why is a song that one or two people worked on, inherently better than a song that many people worked on? That's not even accurate anyways, "Friday" was "written and produced by Los Angeles record producers Clarence Jey and Patrice Wilson". That's two people, you made no point there. I could do some more digging, I also remember reading that a lot of the big pop hits were written by a single person. That's how I feel about the whole issue. Can you give even a shred of evidence that Gangnam Style and Ke$ha are bad things, beyond that you don't like them? If not, maybe you need to admit that you're falling victim to human nature yourself, with this whole elitist rant as a way for you to feel superior to other people based on an arbitrary preference. Society is progressing remarkably, despite something so horrendous as people enjoying catchy music. Wanna know some recent pop hits? Here's some eloquently worded lyrics about the angst, I mean joy, of a rich man fucking his friend's girl, something about a car, and the colors black and yellow. ************************************************ Yeah, uh huh, you know what it is Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow Yeah, uh huh, you know what it is Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow Yeah, uh huh, you know what it is Everything I do, I do it big Yeah, uh huh, screamin' that's nothin' When I pulled off the lot, that's stuntin' Reppin' my town when you see me You know everything Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow I put it down from the whip To my diamonds I'm in Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow Black stripe, yellow paint Them niggas scared of it, but them ho's ain't Soon as I hit the club look at them ho's face Hit the pedal once, make the floor shake Suede insides, my engine roarin' It's the big boy, you know what I paid for it And I got the petal to the metal Got you niggas checkin' game, I'm ballin out on every level Hear them haters talk But there's nothing you can tell 'em Just made a million Got another million on my schedule No love for a nigga breakin' hearts No keys, push to start Yeah, uh huh, you know what it is Everything I do, I do it big Yeah, uh huh, screamin' that's nothin' When I pulled off the lot, that's stuntin' Reppin' my town when you see me You know everything Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow I put it down from the whip To my diamonds I'm in Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow Got a call from my jeweler, this just in Bitches love me 'cause I'm fuckin' with their best friends Not a lesbian, but she a freak though This ain't for one night, I'm shinin' all week, ho I'm sippin' Cliquot and rockin' yellow diamonds So many rocks up in my watch I can't tell what the time is Got a pocketful of big faces Throw it up 'cause every nigga that I'm with tailored Yeah, uh huh, you know what it is Everything I do, I do it big Yeah, uh huh, screamin' that's nothin' When I pulled off the lot, that's stuntin' Reppin' my town when you see me You know everything Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow I put it down from the whip To my diamonds I'm in Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow Stay high like how I'm supposed to do That crown underneath them clouds can't get close to you And my car look unapproachable Super clean but it's super mean She wanna fuck with them cats, smoke weed, count stacks Get fly, take trips and that's that, real rap I let her get high, she want and she feel that Convertible drop fill, '87 and the top peel back Yeah, uh huh, you know what it is Yeah, yeah, uh huh, you know what it is You already know what it is, man And if you don't, you should by now Reppin' my town when you see me You know everything Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow I put it down from the whip To my diamonds I'm in Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow Yeah, uh huh, you know what it is Everything I do, I do it big Yeah, uh huh, screamin' that's nothin' When I pulled off the lot, that's stuntin' Reppin' my town when you see me You know everything Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow I put it down from the whip To my diamonds I'm in Black and yellow, black and yellow Black and yellow, black and yellow ****************************************** This one? I don't even know what the fuck it's supposed to be about. ****************************************** [intro:] Rack, rack, city bitch, city bitch Rack, rack, rack city bitch, city bitch, rack Rack, rack, rack city bitch, city bitch Mutha on the beat Hah! [Verse 1:] Rack city bitch, rack, rack city bitch Ten ten ten twenties on ya titties bitch 100 deep V.I.P. no guest list T-Raw you don't know who you fucking with? Got my other bitch fucking with my other bitch Fucking all night nigga we ain't celibate Make it sound too dope I ain't selling it Bar fresher than a motherfucking peppermint Gold Letterman last kings killing shit Young money young money yeah we getting rich I Got ya grandma on my dick (ha ha) Girl you know what it is [Hook: x2] Rack city bitch, rack, rack, city bitch [x3] Ten, ten, ten, twenties and them fifties bitch [Verse 2:] I'm a motherfucking star (star) Look at the paint on the car (car) Too much rim make the ride too hard Tell that bitch hop out, walk the boulevard I need my money pronto Get it in the morning like Alonzo Rondo, Green got cheese like a nacho If you ain't got no ass bitch wear a poncho Head hancho got my seat back Nigga staring at me don't get bapped Got my shirt off the club too packed It's too turned going up like gas God damn pulled out my racks Mike Mike Jackson nigga yeah I'm bad Rat T-T-T-Tatted up on my back All the hoes love me you know what it is [Hook: x2] Rack city bitch, rack, rack, city bitch [x3] Ten, ten, ten, twenties and them fifties bitch [Outro:] Throwing hunnids, hunnids Hunnids, hunnids Throwing hunnids, hunnids Rack city bitch, rack, rack city bitch Hunnids, hunnids Throwing hunnids, hunnids Hunnids, hunnids Rack city bitch, rack, rack city bitch (Rack, rack, rack, rack, rack...) ****************************************** ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED But seriously, if this is not proof that music today, for the most part, is absolutely horrible, then I don't know what you could consider horrible. AIDS maybe? To address the point of Gangnam Style and Kesha, you're right, there's no proof that they're horrible, that's just my opinion. However, the evidence placed above should suffice. (I never mentioned Psy as a horrible thing, Kesha's just a shitty role model, and Lady Gaga... Well, there's no combination of words in the english language to describe the wtf value she draws from me, but there's nothing particularly wrong with liking her music, I just think it sucks ass, but that's purely subjective. However, I do think Lady Gaga's a great role model with her recent participation in anti-bullying efforts. (The examples I stated in previous responses weren't quite what I was wanting to put as HORRIBLE, but they were the first to come to mind, and not much thought was put into them, so I apologize for poor examples, but as stated above, there is a literal definition of horrible in the music industry that doesn't need to be heard to be scorned.)) 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HellspawnOfHalo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 TO MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR, I'M GOING TO PUT THIS AS LARGELY AND AS DISGUSTINGLY AS I CAN. I'M DONE IN THIS THREAD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS/CHALLENGES, BUT I'M DONE WITH IT, IT JUST CAUSES ME STRESS WHENEVER I COME BACK. FRANKLY, I HAVE MORE IMPORTANT SHIT ON MY MIND THAN THIS THREAD, SO YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO COMMANDEER IT, BUT KEEP IN MIND, I REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PARTICULAR THREAD, WHICH I CREATED, ANY LONGER. I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANY CHALLENGES, I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING. Haha get it because it's in comic sans hey gaiz am I cool yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 ...at no point did I attack you. But whatever, man, you're just being immature. Have fun with it. Sent from my cell phone, because fuck ancient satellites from across the cosmic web. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaneebaslave Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 ... That's not comic sans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceny Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Just ask for it to be locked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokiriforestFTW Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 LOL This guy's crazier than me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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