Conker Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 I agree with heavy. Also, even then, nothing stops me from pirating on my Wii, GC, PS2, PS1, Dreamcast, Original Xbox, PSP, and not to mention the various retro emulators I have spread across a lot of those consoles which allow me to sample a wider variety of games. So yeah, I don't feel PC's have an edge in anything, really... Sent from my cell phone, because ancient satellites from across the cosmic web are lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulofDeity Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 That's cool and all, Secant, but HDMI gaming on the PC can at many times be a painful experience: some shit can happen in the background that minimizes your game, game can crash so you have to get ALL THE WAY back up and start it up again, and not to mentionThere's many easy fixes for this. To name a few, you can kill a few processes before starting a game, or disable them from MS-Config (which you can find by typing "MS-Config", in the start menu. The second option is to alternative software that puts your computer into game mode.If you have trust issues with the later, believe it or not, you can actually write a batch script that does it by creating a 'savestate' of your machines processes, enumerating through the all the tasks with the 'tasklist' command, and killing any processes that aren't list in your 'savestate' with the "taskkill" command.Don't get me wrong, I prefer console gaming over pc gaming, but capability-wise pc's are just better. Cheap RPG-maker ports and Python interpreters lacking a stack, console, or text editor aside; there isn't any on-console development software available.Not to say it isn't possible. Hell, in the case of the psp, all you'd have to do is modify the makefile to build the applications as prx's with file buffering (because the psp has a low amount of ram), rewrite how the arguments are passed to modules (because psp module argument passing is funky...), and make a text editor.Hell, you could even try just gluing a MIPS-port of Tiny-C to a text editor, but the point is it hasn't actually been done yet...Development aspects aside, consoles are also behind pc's in several other things like browser capabilities, where the browsers are usually Netfront based and have little to no flash support and don't strive for the web-of-tomorrow features like HTML5 and WebGL.Another thing is that consoles are artistically limited. While several consoles like the 3DS have art programs for the user to toy around with, they're very simplistic, and hard to work with. Even with a pen, it's difficult to impossible to put just 1 pixel where you want it.Audio-wise, there are some interesting and powerful editing tools out there for consoles, but they're mainly sequence based, and sadly the world just doesn't seem to have that much love for midi's anymore :(I'm sure one day it'll get there, but right now, consoles just aren't quite up to pc-level yet feature-wise.Also, while we're on this topic, just wanna say that I think Sony is a bunch of retards for using making the PS4 use an x86. Seriously, companies have been working their asses off trying to figure out how to get pc's away from this awful architecture for years without breaking backwards compat. Recent pc's actually piggyback reprogrammable RISC architectures. Just seemed like a dumb idea, and a huge step back for a company that's been a veteran of RISC architectures like MIPS and ARM since day 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcaith Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I fail to see how one can consider games to be 'better' overall on one platform or the other, when certain game types play with more ease on certain platforms. It's absurd to say that one platform is the superior overall, simply because certain games are designed with certain platforms in mind. It's like saying you could play Wii games better on the N64 (assuming one created an N64 version of said titles). The mechanics are designed to reflect the inputs and outputs of the respective platform.[/thread] You are right, but I haven't seen a game that didn't play as well or better after being ported from PC to console. Some games made for console then PC don't port over very nicely, the controls are often lacking. Like I've mentioned before the controls for Silent hill 3 on PC are not good, and it does not have very good controller support. Playing it would be easier on PS2. If people want to game on PC it's their choice, personally I think the only real advantage PC gaming has is the ablility to download games for free some illegal way, or get them very cheap off Steam. PC only games as well are a factor, but it's not like there isn't console only games. To each their own though. I don't have any intention of discussing it further, these sort of topics can get heated very easily. Starcraft64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 So, I should care about all of that stuff why? I game to game, and my consoles are primarily for gaming(I watch the occasional movie, but it still works perfectly on my PS3). I do not give two shits about making games(which, if you configure a more recent console properly, you CAN do), art, music, or browsing the web from any of my consoles. They're for gaming. And this whole topic is about the gaming side of things, PC or consoles, so those arguments are moot as fuck. Sent from my cell phone, because ancient satellites from across the cosmic web are lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulofDeity Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 So, I should care about all of that stuff why? I game to game, and my consoles are primarily for gaming(I watch the occasional movie, but it still works perfectly on my PS3). I do not give two shits about making games(which, if you configure a more recent console properly, you CAN do), art, music, or browsing the web from any of my consoles. They're for gaming.And this whole topic is about the gaming side of things, PC or consoles, so those arguments are moot as fuck.Sent from my cell phone, because ancient satellites from across the cosmic web are lame.It matters because if you ignore those things, PC's and consoles are evenly matched. HDMI cable your pc to the big-screen, pick up an x-box 360 controller, and use a program to put your pc into gaming mode first (which btw, can be added to your game's shortcut so you don't have to do it manually every time you play), and the experience is exactly the same.EDIT: And I never said you couldn't do those things on a console, I said that they just weren't anywhere near the same level as pc's feature-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 I was replying to the second part of your post that was focussing on bloat that had little to do with the center of this topic, gaming. Sent from my cell phone, because ancient satellites from across the cosmic web are lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Why is anyone arguing about something as ridiculous as what platform is better? No platform is better than the other, so just drop the argument. it is just ridiculous. Console wars are ridiculous, and every kind of elitist is a bad elitist. Not just PC elitists. That's all there is to it, because I am not going to state things that have already been stated here before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulofDeity Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I was replying to the second part of your post that was focussing on bloat that had little to do with the center of this topic, gaming.I didn't realize it was about gaming only, but my last point still stands.The only argument consoles have really as leverage are that pc games are usually graphically inferior; and that's only because the companies that make the games have very poor 3d artists (*cough*Bethesda*cough*), or because the programmers decide to use low-level graphics extensions that are gpu-specific; so the game looks great for some people but like shit for others.it's really just a tie. both are on equal terms, though the games created specifically for pc are usually inferior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librarian Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Comparing PC's and Consoled is like comparing apples and oranges, it just doesn't work. PC's and Consoles both have their own respective positives and negatives, Consoles are simple and to the point, but lack the flexibility that PC's offer, PC's are highly customizable, but are more prone to difficulties. If I wan't to sit back, relax, and just play a video game, I'll use a console. If I want the freedom to modify my game, use a mouse and keyboard(preferable for first person games and simulators(imo)) and can be bothered to troubleshoot problems if one arises, I'll use a PC. There is no 'war' between Consoles and PC's, and there never has been, neither are 'dying', and they never will(at least for a very long time). I prefer to have a balance between using Console's and PC's, but if someone prefer's one or the other, that's fine. Now let's just let this thread and any other threads about this subject, fade away(die)... Anyway, just my 2 cents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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