Conker Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 There's so many things wrong with this video, I don't even know where to begin. (kid's mom is kind of hot, though. 8/10 would bang) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strati Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think the voice actress nailed the whole manipulative tone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXIA Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 But... But... I love magic :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 But... But... I love magic :c Facelss, my friend, please... please don't say that. I want to see you go to Heaven with Jesus and all of the little angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antidote Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I got rid of imaginary friends along time ago, but if people want to pretend that's fine just don't force it on others >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That 1001th Person Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have no words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I got rid of imaginary friends along time ago, but if people want to pretend that's fine just don't force it on others >.> Heathen! I'll have my vengeful God rape you! >8( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeithDarkwraith Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 What even... this is just... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason777 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I am Episcopalian and am not ashamed of my Christian faith. I am, however, ashamed of some denominations... Unfortunately, these groups (i.e. a good deal of Catholics - not implying all) hold the most power in the religious world and have the greatest influence on the peoples' opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spire Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yes Caleb. Yessssss. Obey the Jehova lie so you may one day live in a mediocre suburban home with your own mediocre suburban family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netsrac Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Why can't they just accept what others want to believe in? Seriously, why the hell do so many big religions try to force their believes onto others? People like that should be ashamed of themselves for doing so. Especially for manipulating children like in this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullockDS Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Having grown up in a Catholic household, I can say that my parents were never this batshit crazy. Not even close. This is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saraka Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 While my mother is a Jehovah's Witness, she was never this manipulative. I admit that she had tried to enforce that religion on to me, but she didn't go to this extent. She never forced me to throw away a toy, or forbid me to read a certain book, or whatever, as long as I "still had Jehovah in my heart". I'm honestly not a big fan of this religion. And recently, their "Kingdom Hall" which my mother and younger brother used to attend excommunicated them, for missing five days, due to our family being busy.Oh god. Did I just have a rant? To sum it up, some people are too devout in their religion, that they'll go to certain extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yes Caleb. Yessssss. Obey the Jehova lie so you may one day live in a mediocre suburban home with your own mediocre suburban family. Isn't that every child's dream, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strati Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Why can't they just accept what others want to believe in? Nah, it's easier to create a thread and ridicule it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antidote Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm an agnostic atheist, I don't believe that a god exists based on a lack of evidence, if evidence were to ever surface i would reconsider my position, but if the Christian god was ever proven I would NEVER worship it, seriously have any Christians ever actually read that book? It's terrible, it's despicable, it's grotesque, i can't even describe the horrors in that book it's that bad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullockDS Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 @Antidote: I'm sorry, but frankly you're coming off as pretty arrogant and insulting. About the Bible: there's a few reasons that the various denominations of Christianity have held multiple councils over time, one being to figure out what can and can't be applicable from tradition to the modern day (e.g. the eye-for-an-eye policy has been heavily phased out by most denominations). In fact, for the most part, the Old Testament isn't too relevant to most Christian doctrines anymore (the OT being where a majority of the admittedly objectionable content originates from), essentially being reduced to a curiosity to learn where Christian tradition stems from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'm confused, though. How did the new testament come about? If the Bible can just be re-written, I have trouble believing it was ever based on true events to begin with. Keep in mind, I'm just saying that because I don't understand; someone feel free to explain it to me so I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antidote Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 @BullockDS I'm not being arrogant, just honest, seriously just read the bible, you'll see what I'm saying. If being honest is arrogant, I'd rather be arrogant than ignorant. @Conker The New testament came about mostly by sheer chance, and the bible was assembled by a committee each hand choosing which parts of the gospel to become part of the canonical text, the other parts were then discarded and considered blasphemous. There is a ton of research done behind both the New and Old testament and it's all publicly available, a simple google search away. I've read the bible cover to cover, and it's the primary reason why i'm an atheist today, Mark Twain said: "It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies." EDIT:The stories about Jesus and the resurrection are really just retellings of the same story with some embellishments and "improvements" One (Mark or Luke i can't remember right now) is based on The Greek Septuagint the other based on another translation of the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 My one and only warning This thread seems to be spiraling into a heated religious debate, which is probably one of the worst sort of things that could possibly ever happen. Flame wars are not nice, and we don't need to be tossing our beliefs into other people's faces, shoving things down others throats, or being generally unpleasant. I would prefer that this debate be nipped in the bud altogether before things get worse, but I do not ask that explicitly. However, if this gets out of hand, I will not hesitate to hand out warning points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullockDS Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 @Conker: It's not so much that the Bible is re-written by councils, moreso that they try to decide what is and isn't still relevant to follow at that point in time (e.g. shedding of many traditional Jewish rituals like circumcision and forbidding the consumption of meat from cloven-hooved animals). Also, for the record, I'm not trying to say whether or not Christianity is true (right now I'm agnostic myself, so I'm having trouble figuring out my stance on that matter). @Antidote: saying things like "I got rid of imaginary friends along time ago, but if people want to pretend that's fine" comes off as condescending and makes it sound as if you think less of Christians for believing in a God. If this isn't really the case, I apologize. Also, I will concede that there's a fair bit of fowl stuff in the Bible; however, as I said, this sort of thing is what most Christian councilmen/educators/clergymen want to avoid more and more often (I don't think you'd want to hear the priest sing or discuss things like The Song of Songs* during Sunday mass anymore ). *(NSFW) "TI slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My beloved is knocking: “Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night.†I have taken off my robe— must I put it on again? I have washed my feet— must I soil them again? My beloved thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him. I arose to open for my beloved, and my hands dripped with myrrh, my fingers with flowing myrrh, on the handles of the bolt. I opened for my beloved, but my beloved had left; he was gone." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antidote Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It would probably just be a good idea to just lock this topic, all I said was that I was an agnostic atheist and my reasoning why. No harm or foul was meant on my part. BullockDS took offense to what I said and gave no real reason as to why, I have no problems with religion, just the book. EDIT: This was posted before I saw Bullocks, @BullockDS Why does my opinion of what people do really matter? It's just that: an opinion, it wasn't meant as an insult or anything of that sort, I do apologize that you took offense, but I meant what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'll unlock this thread if someone asks me to. But for now, I'm closing this before the argument gets out of hand and I have to hand out warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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