Pause menu problems

[Lishy]

Hey guys. As many of you know, pause menu in OoT debug is INCREDIBLY messy, as it takes an incredibly long time to load. Is there any way to fix this? Any patches as of yet?

 

Additionally, PJ64 1.7 crashes when it gets the so called "graphic error" notification you sometimes get when pausing while using Jabo's graphics plugin. How does I fix this? It is annoying to constantly savestate in fear of it crashing. Hell, sometimes I even get Blue Screens...

[haddockd]

I have NEVER experienced a pause crash with Rice 6.1.3 DX9 build. Glide64 crashes sometimes, but only if I use high res textures. Keep in mind that it does have a very long pause regardless of the video plugin (at least for me). To my knowledge, there was a GS code that "fixed" the long delay but it never worked for me. Just for the record I am a PJ64 1.6 user.

[Lishy]

I would like to know the GS code, or anything else to fix it and stop crashes.

[Zeth Ryder]

Change emulators.

[haddockd]

Zeth may have a point. I have had good success with 1964. I am an odd man out here but I do not care for Nemu personally.

[Lishy]

Using PJ64 1.7 and going to graphic settings ingame caused a "system_service_exception" Blue Screen of Death

 

I'll try 1964 then. Do you mean the emulator or video plugin? Because I'm really attached to PJ64. Dunno why I never use to have these problems in the past, or if I just got lucky, but I'd love if I knew of a fix..

 

edit: In 1964 debug rom is a blank screen. These are my ROM settings:

 

[haddockd]

This is not specific to 1964, but it is all i could dig up at work:

 

CPU core style: Re compiler

Self-mod code method: Check Memory Advance

Default Memory size: 8MB This one is important.

Advanced block lining: On

 

-Then go to the ROM settings tab and do your settings like this:

CPU core style: Re compiler (if this doesn't work the first time switch it to "Protect Memory")

Self-modifying code method: Check Memory Advance

Memory Size: 8MB

Advanced block linking: Default

Default save type: Use first used save type

Counter Factor: 2

 

-Then remove all checks at the bottom of the tab except for "Register Caching" That's the only one you should have checked.

Apply these settings

[Lishy]

I am well aware of those settings and I tried to imitate them in the 1964 screenshot. I do not know what went wrong.

[haddockd]

Not to be rude, but some of these are verbatim from what I posted so it appears you didn't even try. That being said... if I had to guess here is what you didn't change/changed incorrectly:

Expansion Pack should be 8MB (This one is important)

Self Modifying code: Check mem advance

Core: Not sure if this can be changed to just Recompiler, but check

[john_smith_account]

The problem you are describing is caused by is actually by the programmers being "clever".

 

What takes awful long to load is the background image for the inventory screen. It gives some pluggins/emulators problems. Even on a real N64 it loads slow sometimes!

 

MM's Inventory loads fast! Why? It lacks that stupid background image.

 

This problem was solved once, but the fix was hoarded, and since lost. But if it was fixed once, it can be fixed again. Any of you mighty ASM wizards what to take a stab at it? I'm willing to help.

[Jason777]

I quoted myself from glitchkill:

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Your BEST choice for an emulator would be Nemu64.

 

If you want pre-configured Nemu64... CLICK ME

If you want another guide on setting up for the Debug ROM... CLICK ME

 

And if you insist on using 1964, I guess I'll give you the correct settings since I can't seem to find them anywhere. I set the emulator up myself after awhile of tweaking and messing around so these may not be the best settings but, hey, they work.

 

First, make sure you have these plugins:

 

Go to Video Settings:

 

Set it up like this:

 

Next, go to ROM Properties:

 

Set it up like this:

 

And (hopefully) success:

[Lishy]

Thank you Jason!

 

However there is still the issue of the dirt roads in hyrule field disappearing. Any way to fix this?

 

edit: This is weird. Why does it work with graphics plugin of jabo 1.6, but not 1.5.2? In 1.5.2 it is just a blank screen! I used the exact settings as your rom settings image.

 

And even in 1.6, the spear moblins freeze the game!

 

I really wish I knew the secret to getting this to work..

[Jason777]

It could always just be an issue with your computer. I really do recommend you use Nemu64, though.

[Lishy]

If it is just my computer, why would 1.6 work and 1.5.2 not work?

[john_smith_account]

Try the jabo 1.6 fix, created cooliscool.

 

1. open the ROM in a hex editor

2. In the header there should be the ROM name, something like "LEGEND OF ZELDA".

3. In typo over mode, typing over the original text and not adding bytes to the ROM, rename it to anything else. The classic fix was used "LEGEND OF DEBUG"

This fix is so crucial, I have it applied to default ROM.

[Lishy]

Nemu64 is a black screen (but it still "plays")

 

I'm using the 2003 version.

 

I wish I had a way to simply just play it without all these errors. Sure these are your configurations?

 

edit: Additionally, pj64 configured with 1964 still doesn't have dirt roads, and level select is garbled!

 

Me and Naxy tried to do all sorts of crap but nothing is seeming to work so far! He told me to post logs because something is REALLY messed up and we need xdaniel or spinout's help.

 

 

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[11:07:56 AM] lishy93: wow 2000? o.o

[11:08:11 AM] lishy93: On that subject, what causes storngbox warp to mess up when the arwing is present?

[11:08:13 AM] Esper Senne: Higher can be loaded if it's not seen all at once

[11:08:22 AM] lishy93: And why is the collission test map experiencing similar problems?

[11:08:56 AM] Esper Senne: Probably because of Zelda Edit's "fixes" to it, try redownling the link I sent you for esnips, that one should be the absolutely untouched version

[11:09:24 AM] lishy93: yeah but the untouched version has texture mess ups and 120 mesh is bad?

[11:09:38 AM] lishy93: i kinda want the zelda edit fixes just not the ones which mess up those rooms

[11:09:47 AM] lishy93: (Strongbox warp is a cool chilling spot D:)

[11:10:14 AM] Esper Senne: Only room 120's header is broken

[11:10:28 AM] Esper Senne: If you can find a copy of Zelda Edit, then you can apply only that fix

[11:10:38 AM] lishy93: but I thought textures are messed up too?

[11:10:43 AM] lishy93: and level select not translated?

[11:11:06 AM] Esper Senne: Textures are fine depending on the plugin, but level select doesn't really matter

[11:11:16 AM] lishy93: level select matters to me

[11:11:18 AM] lishy93: anyways

[11:11:19 AM] lishy93: http://www.esnips.co...it-Bundle-0.9.5

[11:11:22 AM] lishy93: is this reliable?

[11:11:29 AM] lishy93: Also, relink your debug rom link, if you could, please?

[11:11:30 AM] Esper Senne: 1: Hyrule Field

2: Kakariko Village

3: Graveyard

4: Zora's River

5: Kokiri Forest

6: Sacred Forest Meadow

7: Lake Hylia (stage 01 shows the credits)

8: Zora's Domain

9: Zora's Fountain

10: Gerudo Valley

11: Lost Woods

12: Desert Colossus

13: Gerudo's Fortress

14: Haunted Wasteland

15: Hyrule Castle

16: Death Mountain Trail

17: Death Mountain Crater

18: Goron City

19: Lon Lon Ranch

20: Temple Of Time

21: Chamber of Sages [Cutscene]

22: Shooting Gallery

23: Castle Courtyard Game

24: Underground Grave 1

25: Underground Grave 2

26: Royal Family's Tomb

27: Great Fairy's Fountain (Din)

28: Great Fairy's Fountain (Farore)

29: Great Fairy's Fountain (Nayru)

30: Ganondorf's Tower - Collapsing [Cutscene]

31: Zelda's Courtyard

32: Fishing Pond

33: Bombchu Bowling Alley

34: Lon Lon Ranch House

35: Lon Lon Ranch Silo

36: Hyrule Castle Town - Guard House

37: Potion Shop

38: Treasure Box Shop

39: House Of Skulltula

40: Hyrule Castle Town - Main Alley

41: Market

42: Back Alley

43: Tempe Of Time - Outside

44: Link's Home

45: House (Kakariko)

46: House (Back Alley)

47: House of the Know-it-All Brothers

48: House of the Twins

49: Mido's House

50: Saria's House

51: Stable

52: Gravekeeper's Hut

53: House (Back Alley)

54: House (Kakariko)

55: Lakeside Laboratory

56: Running Man's Tent

57: Bazaar

58: Kokiri Shop

59: Gordon Shop

60: Zora Shop

61: Closed Shop

62: Potion Shop

63: Back Alley Night Store

64: Happy Mask Shop

65: Gerudo Training Ground

66: Inside the Deku Tree

67: Deku Tree Boss [boss]

68: Dodongo Cavern

69: Dodongo Cavern Boss [boss]

70: Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly

71: Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly Boss [boss]

72: Forest Temple

73: Forst Temple Boss [boss]

74: Bottom of the Well

75: Shadow Temple (Literal Translation: Dungeon Beneath the Grave)

76: Shadow Temple Boss [boss]

77: Fire Temple

78: Fire Temple Boss [boss]

79: Water Temple

80: Water Temple [boss]

81: Spirit Temple

82: Spirit Temple [iron Knuckle]

83: Spirit Temple Boss [boss]

84: Stairs to Ganondorf

85: Ganondorf [boss]

86: Ice Cavern

87: Dampé's Grave (Literal Translation: Beneath the Grave rirei)

88: Inside Ganon's Castle

89: Escaped Ganon's Castle [Final Boss Fight]

90: Escaping Ganon's Castle 1

91: Escaping Ganon's Castle 2

92: Escaping Ganon's Castle 3

93: Escaping Ganon's Castle 4

94: Escaping Ganon's Castle 5

95: Thieves' Hideout 1

96: Thieves' Hideout 2

97: Thieves' Hideout 3

98: Thieves' Hideout 4

99: Thieves' Hideout 5

100: Thieves' Hideout 6

101: Underground Grotto 1

102: Underground Grotto 2

103: Underground Grotto 3

104: Underground Grotto 4

105: Underground Grotto 5

106: Underground Grotto 6

107: Underground Grotto 7

108: Underground Grotto 8

109: Underground Grotto 9 (looks beta)

110: Underground Grotto 10

111: Underground Grotto 11

112: Underground Grotto 12

113: Underground Grotto 13

114: Underground Grotto 14

115: Various Cutscenes

116: Special Room (Strongbox Warp)

117: Bamboo Grass Test (Assumption: Ground Test)

118: Test Map (lots of water and ledges, ladders, etc)

119: Test Room (craploads of treasure boxes)

120: Medium/Mediocre Stalfos Room

121: Boss Stalfos Room (Beta; not much there, the warp takes you to the courtyard)

122: Beta Dark Link arena, including Dark Link

123: Shooting Gallery

124: Depth Test (9 squares way off in distance, Link falls to his doom)

125: Hyrule Garden Game 2 (PJ64 goes into endless error message loop)

title: Title Screen

[11:11:36 AM] lishy93: I know that

[11:11:50 AM] Esper Senne: Yeah, pretty sure that's a good link

[11:12:01 AM] Esper Senne: Probably the same guy who uploaded the Debug ROM, and it's legit

[11:12:07 AM] lishy93: ok

[11:20:17 AM] lishy93: what's the link to the clean debug?

[11:20:50 AM] Esper Senne: *CENSORED*

[11:20:55 AM] lishy93: thanks

[11:21:55 AM] lishy93: wtf

[11:22:00 AM] lishy93: it wants me to log in to download zelda edit??

[11:22:34 AM] Esper Senne: Might as well, I don't know of any other good links

[11:22:38 AM] lishy93: =/

[11:22:44 AM] Esper Senne: Send it to me and I'll upload it to my site for the masses

[11:22:48 AM] Esper Senne: Actually, hmm

[11:22:52 AM] Esper Senne: spinout might have it

[11:23:24 AM] lishy93: i don't feel like registering on it x.x

[11:23:29 AM] Esper Senne: Never mind, good shit on ZAV/UoT but not on Zelda Edit

[11:23:39 AM] lishy93: so I would like if it was on your site or something

[11:23:57 AM] lishy93: Why are such essential patches to set up the debug rom so unavailable?

[11:24:25 AM] Esper Senne: Because they're standardized, most copies have these fixes applied

[11:24:31 AM] Esper Senne: That, and cooliscool is just obscure

[11:25:02 AM] lishy93: isn't he the alligator dude who would record himself on youtube smoking weed?

[11:25:04 AM] lishy93: or is that cendamos?

[11:25:14 AM] Esper Senne: That's Cendamos

[11:25:16 AM] lishy93: oh

[11:25:24 AM] Esper Senne: Cendamos doesn't really hack or program much

[11:25:31 AM] lishy93: didn't he hack zso too or something? I wonder what that drama was of

[11:25:43 AM] lishy93: didn't he do a multiplayer haox, contrary to the actual multiplayer?

[11:25:49 AM] Esper Senne: No and yes

[11:25:57 AM] Esper Senne: ZZT32 was the one who hacked ZSO

[11:26:07 AM] lishy93: ok

[11:26:12 AM] lishy93: wonder why

[11:26:25 AM] Esper Senne: Long story that I don't feel like recounting

[11:26:30 AM] Esper Senne: Best to just let old shit lie

[11:26:30 AM] lishy93: ok lol

[11:26:38 AM] lishy93: i'll just continue moddeling xD

[11:29:00 AM] lishy93: is it possible to have a door you can enter from one side always but locks on the other?

[11:29:19 AM] lishy93: Right now I'm trying to figure out how to immitate things like LA's flip doors and other things before I continue

[11:29:25 AM] Esper Senne: *CENSORED*

user: *CENSORED*

pass: *CENSORED*

[11:29:32 AM] lishy93: woo

[11:29:55 AM] lishy93: access denied? O_o

[11:30:00 AM] Esper Senne: What the fuck

[11:30:12 AM] lishy93: it's when i try to get the file

[11:30:15 AM] *** Esper Senne sent Zelda Edit Bundle 0.9.5.rar ***

[11:30:25 AM] Esper Senne: A more direct approach, as in sex, is always much better

[11:30:28 AM] lishy93: yay

[11:30:38 AM] Esper Senne: Enjoy your cake

[11:31:05 AM] lishy93: also about the "flip" door replacements??"

[11:31:19 AM] Esper Senne: Hmmmmm

[11:31:28 AM] Esper Senne: Generally, locked doors are only locked on one side

[11:31:39 AM] Esper Senne: You could have a door that locks as you exit through it and no switch trigger to unlock it

[11:31:46 AM] Esper Senne: BUT NOTE WELL

[11:31:58 AM] Esper Senne: There is very little documentation on triggers, we don't know why but they are just finicky as fuck

[11:32:22 AM] Esper Senne: So if you want to have that door reopen, you're going to have a bit of trouble with it, most likely

[11:32:55 AM] lishy93: =/

[11:33:07 AM] lishy93: so there would not be much of a viable way to immitate those flip doors?

[11:33:21 AM] Esper Senne: No, there is

[11:33:32 AM] Esper Senne: Use the door that locks as you exit through it

[11:33:45 AM] Esper Senne: You just might need to give it two tries if you get the side wrong

[11:34:19 AM] lishy93: hrm

[11:34:31 AM] lishy93: i applied some fixes with zelda edit but test map freezes o.O

[11:34:40 AM] lishy93: what fix would cause that?

[11:34:45 AM] Esper Senne: That is strange

[11:34:47 AM] Esper Senne: I don't know

[11:36:23 AM] lishy93: I used fix zora fountain scene 01 crashes, make compatible with jabo, translate debug options.. nothing eles

[11:36:44 AM] Esper Senne: Make compatible with Jabo is probably what did it

[11:36:56 AM] Esper Senne: I -really- recommend you stop using Jabo's, 1964's is a lot more up-to-date

[11:37:10 AM] Esper Senne: Jabo's uses a crapton of game-specific hacks to get it to render even close to properly

[11:37:18 AM] lishy93: 1964 gives me weird prompts before it even works

[11:37:24 AM] lishy93: and 1964's emulator is well

[11:37:28 AM] lishy93: it doesn't render properly

[11:37:34 AM] lishy93: no roads or debug options

[11:37:38 AM] Esper Senne: You don't need to use 1964's plugin with 1964

[11:37:44 AM] Esper Senne: That one works on all of the emulators

[11:37:52 AM] lishy93: anyways

[11:37:56 AM] lishy93: in the clean rom you gave me

[11:37:59 AM] lishy93: it's not really clean

[11:38:20 AM] lishy93: 118 (test map, collission test thing) still crashes even with NO fixes

[11:38:48 AM] Esper Senne: Have you checked your ROM settings?

[11:38:51 AM] lishy93: yes

[11:38:55 AM] lishy93: also the textures aint messed up

[11:38:59 AM] lishy93: so it can't possibly be clean

[11:39:01 AM] Esper Senne: Are you using PJ64 1.6?

[11:39:27 AM] lishy93: yes

[11:39:38 AM] lishy93: but this never happened in the past with my old truly clean debug

[11:39:41 AM] lishy93: err

[11:39:48 AM] lishy93: 1.5.2 plugin on 1.6 though

[11:39:56 AM] lishy93: for video

[11:40:03 AM] Esper Senne: Hate to say it, but if you can't even run the one I typically run, you've got some serious problems

[11:40:19 AM] Esper Senne: Because it works perfectly on my end, so I don't know what could be going wrong for you

[11:40:34 AM] lishy93: alright you want me to try 1964 plugin?

[11:40:34 AM] lishy93: sec

[11:41:35 AM] lishy93: 1964 community plugin crashes pj64 1.6 o_o

[11:42:18 AM] Esper Senne: Which release?

[11:42:52 AM] lishy93: it's one that came with my pj64 1.7 sec

[11:43:35 AM] lishy93: about says

[11:43:45 AM] lishy93: 1964video n64 video plugin community version (r72)

[11:43:53 AM] lishy93: based on rice blahblah lah

[11:43:59 AM] lishy93: i'll just use the one that came with my 1964

[11:44:02 AM] Esper Senne: Known buggy release

[11:44:06 AM] lishy93: but any reason why that one has problems too?

[11:44:17 AM] Esper Senne: Probably, but I don't know them x.x

[11:45:10 AM] lishy93: argh

[11:45:15 AM] lishy93: do you really play with level select messed up?

[11:45:19 AM] Esper Senne: Yes

[11:45:24 AM] Esper Senne: I just remember all the addresses

[11:45:29 AM] lishy93: that kills it for me

[11:45:34 AM] Esper Senne: Wait

[11:45:41 AM] Esper Senne: Is it in Japanese or garbled text?

[11:45:47 AM] lishy93: garbled text, fuzz

[11:45:49 AM] lishy93: not even SPOT

[11:45:51 AM] lishy93: also no dirt roads

[11:46:01 AM] Esper Senne: Have you enabled full TMEM emulation?

[11:46:11 AM] lishy93: settings of graphics?

[11:46:14 AM] lishy93: yes

[11:46:15 AM] lishy93: it is checked

[11:46:24 AM] lishy93: TMEM EMULATION in graphics config is checked

[11:46:50 AM] lishy93: wtf

[11:46:54 AM] lishy93: level select is finally working

[11:47:07 AM] lishy93: but still no dirt

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[11:48:01 AM] lishy93: omg thanks

[11:48:05 AM] lishy93: why do we not have a sticky

[11:48:06 AM] lishy93: for this

[11:48:10 AM] Esper Senne: Because lazy

[11:48:12 AM] lishy93: bah

[11:48:16 AM] lishy93: we need a sticky with the fixes

[11:48:36 AM] lishy93: 118 freezes still

[11:48:45 AM] Esper Senne: *facedesk*

[11:49:05 AM] Esper Senne: This is out of my hands, either it's a fundamental flaw with your emulator or your computer is just not wanting to run emulators

[11:49:13 AM] Esper Senne: My only suggestion now is try Nemu

[11:49:17 AM] Esper Senne: If that doesn't work, you're SOL

[11:49:34 AM] Esper Senne: Nemu ignores basically every error under the sun

[11:49:39 AM] lishy93: sol? Shit outta luck?

[11:49:42 AM] Esper Senne: Yes

[11:49:53 AM] lishy93: does it work for you, 118?

[11:49:56 AM] Esper Senne: Yes

[11:49:58 AM] lishy93: in the "clean" rom?

[11:50:00 AM] lishy93: hrm

[11:50:06 AM] lishy93: lemme try in 1964 emulator

[11:50:39 AM] Esper Senne: ...One last idea

[11:50:55 AM] *** Esper Senne sent Legend of Zelda, The - Ocarina of Time (J) (Debug).Z64 ***

[11:51:00 AM] lishy93: crashes in 1964 too

[11:51:03 AM] Esper Senne: Pretty sure this is the -first- copy of the Debug ROM I ever got

[11:51:10 AM] lishy93: thks

[11:51:15 AM] lishy93: i'll try that

[11:54:10 AM] lishy93: uh i just tried your fixes, and it causes pj64 to crash with 1964 plugin

[11:54:14 AM] lishy93: could it be opengl?

[11:54:20 AM] Esper Senne: Possibly

[11:54:30 AM] Esper Senne: This is for r94, by the way

[11:54:50 AM] lishy93: yup opengl

[11:54:59 AM] lishy93: uh

[11:55:04 AM] lishy93: but it causes level select to be garbled

[11:55:23 AM] lishy93: now it looks like ?????? from pokemon gen 2

[11:55:27 AM] Esper Senne: *massive facedesk*

[11:55:38 AM] Esper Senne: TMEM enabled?

[11:55:40 AM] lishy93: yes

[11:55:41 AM] lishy93: still no dirt

[11:55:50 AM] Esper Senne: What the fucking hell x.x

[11:56:17 AM] *** Esper Senne sent GlideHQ.dll,... ***

[11:56:25 AM] Esper Senne: Whichever one of these is Wonder Plus or Napalm, use it

[11:57:42 AM] Esper Senne: Default settings WILL work, if they don't, I have no fucking clue how to help you now x.x

[11:58:03 AM] Esper Senne: I have no idea why, but this plugin, even though it's old as dirt and based on Voodoo cards (>12 years old) works almost the best

[11:58:04 AM] lishy93: do yo get dirt roads though?

[11:58:09 AM] Esper Senne: Yes

[11:58:22 AM] lishy93: in default 1.6 i get em but they are "fading"

[11:58:26 AM] lishy93: of pj64

[11:58:46 AM] Esper Senne: You know what

[11:58:53 AM] Esper Senne: I am tempted to say the problem is your graphics card

[11:58:57 AM] Esper Senne: Can you get me the specs on it?

[11:59:52 AM] lishy93: wtf pj64

[12:00:03 PM] lishy93: the program can't start because glide3x.dll is missing from your computer

[12:00:06 PM] lishy93: it's in the plugin directory

[12:00:15 PM] Esper Senne: Delete it

[12:00:19 PM] Esper Senne: It does that

[12:00:25 PM] lishy93: ok.. now what

[12:00:40 PM] Esper Senne: You got Glide Napalm set as your current default?

[12:00:43 PM] lishy93: no

[12:00:55 PM] Esper Senne: Do so

[12:00:56 PM] lishy93: i get multiple errors about all of the plugins

[12:01:04 PM] Esper Senne: Fuck's sake -.-"

[12:02:34 PM] lishy93: failed to load plugin glide64.dll

[12:02:35 PM] Esper Senne: ...All of the plugins load fine on my box -.-

[12:02:40 PM] Esper Senne: HRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNN

[12:02:44 PM] Esper Senne: rage

[12:02:59 PM] Esper Senne: Fuck PJ64, use Nemu

[12:03:43 PM] lishy93: i wonder what the default 1964 settings were so i can get the level select to be not garbled

[12:04:21 PM] Esper Senne: Default settings don't work

[12:04:32 PM] Esper Senne: Motherfucking hell

[12:04:45 PM] Esper Senne: Someone needs to write a plugin specifically tiered towards properly rendering the Debug ROM x.x

[12:05:18 PM] lishy93: seriously i dunno how to ungarble the level select. it was working earlier x.x

[12:05:43 PM] Esper Senne: Graphics card specs

[12:05:46 PM] Esper Senne: Get them to me

[12:06:57 PM] lishy93: you know i never bothered checking my graphics card ever. lemme google a guide

[12:07:21 PM] lishy93: dxdiag?

[12:07:39 PM] Esper Senne: Sure

[12:08:04 PM] lishy93: why cant we copy paste this stuff argj

[12:08:12 PM] lishy93: mobile intel® series express chipset family

[12:08:16 PM] lishy93: internal

[12:08:24 PM] Esper Senne: Just get me the model number

[12:08:25 PM] Esper Senne: I'll find it

[12:08:37 PM] lishy93: not driver model?

[12:08:53 PM] Esper Senne: Update your drivers while you're at it

[12:09:00 PM | Edited 12:09:02 PM] Esper Senne: But first, we need to see the hardware we're dealing with

[12:09:22 PM] lishy93: Driver model: WDDM 1.1

[12:09:49 PM] lishy93: dunno where to find model number though

[12:09:52 PM] Esper Senne: sec

[12:10:10 PM] Esper Senne: http://wiki.answers....s_card_you_have

[12:10:43 PM] lishy93: im already in dxdiag

[12:10:56 PM] Esper Senne: Device Manager, then

[12:11:22 PM] lishy93: display adapters?

[12:11:31 PM] lishy93: Mobile Intel® 4 series express chipset family

[12:11:46 PM] Esper Senne: Looking more for a model information of the card

[12:11:55 PM] Esper Senne: Like ATI Radeon series 3200 HD

[12:11:59 PM] Esper Senne: Something like that

[12:12:03 PM] Esper Senne: Serials are great, too

[12:12:20 PM] lishy93: that's not it?

[12:12:26 PM] lishy93: if it wasn't in dxdiag i have no clue

[12:13:07 PM] Esper Senne: grfplt

[12:13:13 PM] Esper Senne: Hmm

[12:13:42 PM] lishy93: right now im curious how to ungarble the level select and restor eit ot japanese

[12:14:48 PM] Esper Senne: Try to restore the settings, change only one thing at a time

[12:17:01 PM] lishy93: no clue

[12:17:05 PM] lishy93: light in temple of time is also messed

[12:17:11 PM] Esper Senne: Nemu, bro

[12:17:17 PM] Esper Senne: Beyond that, this problem is over my head :\

[12:19:01 PM] lishy93: which version of nemu you using?

[12:19:15 PM] Esper Senne: The last one released

[12:19:35 PM] Esper Senne: emuparadise has it if you need it

[12:19:42 PM] lishy93: ok

[12:20:18 PM] lishy93: can you send me em? I don't wanna have to redownload the emulator x.x

[12:20:39 PM] lishy93: ew and emuparadise's is even an exe

[12:22:22 PM] lishy93: i only have 1964 video plugin 1.0.0

[12:32:30 PM] lishy93: nemu2003?

[12:33:38 PM] Esper Senne: Yeah

[12:33:44 PM] lishy93: it's a black screen o.o

[12:33:56 PM] Esper Senne: HRFFRFFRFRRLOAIDSYFGPOWIEBHFR

[12:36:26 PM] lishy93: what configuration do you use

[12:36:40 PM] lishy93: default?

[12:36:45 PM] Esper Senne: Probably

[12:36:49 PM] lishy93: -.-

[12:36:50 PM] Esper Senne: Oh wait

[12:36:52 PM] Esper Senne: Change the plugin

[12:36:55 PM] lishy93: to?

[12:36:56 PM] Esper Senne: Nemu's doesn't render at all

[12:37:03 PM] Esper Senne: ...Anything

[12:37:07 PM] Esper Senne: Glide Napalm first, try that

[12:38:11 PM] lishy93: which glide

[12:38:15 PM] lishy93: there's two

[12:38:46 PM] Esper Senne: Either

[12:39:07 PM] lishy93: error: uCode crc not found in INI using currently selected uCode 21f91874

[12:39:15 PM] Esper Senne: GRFPLNNNNNNG

[12:39:23 PM] Esper Senne: This is out of my hands

[12:39:27 PM] Esper Senne: PM spinout or xdaniel

[12:39:32 PM] lishy93: ok

[12:39:33 PM] lishy93: thanks

[12:39:42 PM] Esper Senne: Sorry, I have no fucking clue what's wrong with it x.x

[12:39:53 PM] Esper Senne: Paste this entire conversation so they know what currently doesn't work

 

[SanguinettiMods]

Use Jabo_Direct3D8.dll

 

I have no erros, I don't have to change the ROM header, The only thing you have to do is change the Emulator configurations.

[xdaniel]

So the Debug ROM won't run correctly for you or crash no matter what? Okay, from the start... First, your Mobile Intel video chipset might be problematic in general. Second, get the recently released PJ64 v1.6.1 plugins and try those with PJ64 v1.6, making sure the ROM settings are correct - those here work right for me. Third, if it still doesn't work right, try Nemu64 with said PJ64 v1.6.1 video plugin and make sure the Expansion Pak is enabled. Fourth, I have no idea.

[Lishy]

You mean gfx plugin 1.6? For me, it is near flawless EXCEPT that dirt roads "fade". How can we fix that?

 

edit: 1.6.1 fades roads too!

 

And Nemu with Jabu 1.6.1 is still a blank screen. Yes I have 8MB enabled.

[xdaniel]

If v1.6.1 also does it, it's probably your video chipset's fault. Especially integrated/mobile chipsets by Intel are infamous for glitches like that - they have gotten better, but are still way behind ex. a Mobility Radeon HD. Your best bet is probably messing around with some other, older plugins (ex. glN64, Rice Video 6.x), although it's still not guaranteed that one of them will work right.

[Lishy]

I believe you. This is a shitty laptop

 

However, I went to Intel's site and scanned for driver updates, and it did not detect any needed updates. This is odd since before I reformatted my laptop I had to update it manually, but now i don't know what to install to update it. Anyone happen to know what to do with this crappy "Mobile Intel® 4 series express chipset family"?

[spinout]

http://spinout182.com/ar/nemu64.zip

 

"And he never used PJ64 again..."

[Lishy]

I already tried to use nemu64. It was just a black screen even with the pj64 1.6.1 plugin. Methinks my graphics card just sucks.

[spinout]

No, try my download. It is properly configured to work with the Debug ROM.

[Lishy]

Just tried using your Nemu download.

 

Error loading library 'Direct64 v0.5.03.25.dll'

 

Execution blahblahblah not use plugin.

 

Err... Halp? I can still load up my rom and stuff but so far it aint even show New Game name letters. And still no roads on hyrule field!

 

On the bottom right of the emu is also some flickering thing. (Pause is certainly faster though, but it aint fix these other glitches.)

 

Using the exact settings you included, unless the direct64 error loading did something?

 

 

edit: Says it's using Rice's Video Plugin 6.1.1 beta 10? Is that correct? O_o

[spinout]

Remove the direct64 dll if you don't want that error. I threw about 15 GFX plugins into that emulator package. I really don't care about the paths in hyrule field, though you can configure the GFX plugin as it suits you and I'm sure you can get it working. The flickering thing is due to Rice video being designed and tested on PJ64 and 1964 but Nemu 64 still has the same standard (Zimlar's spec iirc) for gfx plugins.

 

Nemu's sound emulation is also better than all emulators, LaC spent tons of time making it work as near as he could get it to work as an N64.